Detroit--and reverse Jim Crow makes a return
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tmretiredRegistered UserPosts: 16(9/29/04 17:18)
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Detroit--and reverse Jim Crow makes a return
(Title of News Piece) Detroit council OKs plan that touts racial separation September 21, 2004
BY MARISOL BELLO
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
A majority of the Detroit City Council wants to implement an economic development plan it commissioned for $112,000 that preaches racial isolation and rails against immigration in its bid to gain economic success for poor blacks.
The crux of the plan is the creation of a business district -- dubbed African Town -- that would be funded in part with city money and made up of black-owned businesses catering to a black clientele.The report also complains that immigrants from Mexico, Asia and the Middle East are stealing resources, jobs and other opportunities from blacks and calls on city leaders to stop the economic shift.
The report does not call on the city to stop immigration -- and the city wouldn't have any power to stop it, even if it wanted to -- but the report does call on the city to level the playing field between blacks and the newcomers who it says are economically surpassing them."We see this as another compliment to the exciting development going on in the city," said Councilwoman JoAnn Watson, who introduced the effort to the council earlier this summer.
The plan is under scrutiny by some city leaders and economic development experts who question the legality of an effort meant to help only one race. Some officials decry the council's efforts as threatening to reverse strides made in the region to improve race relations and the city's relationship with its neighbors.
Such a plan also could further alienate efforts by Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to seek regional cooperation and funding for major projects, such as an expansion and renovation of Cobo Center.
One official calls it outright racist."It's reverse racism," said Kay Everett, one of two councilwomen who voted against the plan. The other council member who rejected the plan was Sheila Cockrel."This is foolish," Everett said. "They don't understand. They're not thinking of the city as a whole. We need to bring harmony to this city, and if we say that we do not want any other people here, then we're being racist."Council members who voted for the plan are quick to say they are not against immigrants.
They say the city must act to help blacks, who more than any other ethnic group in the United States suffer from high levels of poverty, unemployment and school dropout rates.
Kilpatrick vetoed efforts by the council in July to implement the plan, but last week the mayor met with the plan's creator, Claud Anderson, a former Detroiter who had unsuccessfully applied for a casino license. He is also the author of popular books about the economic state of blacks in the country.
Kilpatrick officials said they did not sign any agreements with Anderson, but they are working to help him find land for a business district. So far, they have been unsuccessful.
A mayoral spokesman said that while the meetings were not an endorsement of the politics behind Anderson's plans, the mayor sees merit in the portions of the plan that are focused on creating jobs and increasing the number of black-owned businesses in the city."As they do with any potential investors, the mayor and his development team will continue to evaluate any economic development proposal presented to the city as part of its ongoing efforts to grow Detroit," said mayoral spokesman Howard Hughey."This administration is committed to improving the social and economic conditions, not only of African Americans, but also other traditionally disadvantaged groups."He said the administration is against the council's efforts to institutionalize a system that only helps blacks to the exclusion of other races. The council will find it difficult to implement its plan without the mayor's approval.The report, "A Powernomics Economic Development Plan for Detroit's Under-Served Majority Population," says inner cities should be improved for its residents, who should own and control the businesses in their neighborhoods.
He calls on blacks to support black-owned businesses, in the same way he says other groups frequent stores owned by people of their own ethnicities.
The report also says integration has failed blacks and that regionalism is a bid by whites to control the city's resources. Anderson warns city leaders to beware of non-blacks moving into the city because they will have their own agendas.
Anderson says his theories are not racist, but they are honest.He said the city is bordering on an economic crisis, with 26 percent of the city's population living below the poverty line."The biggest problem in the city of Detroit -- and it's true of all urban areas -- are black leaders and white leaders who continue to use and hide behind the myth of a color-blind and race-neutral society and use it as an excuse not to deal with this dilemma," Anderson said."There are special problems unique to black folks, and the city needs to address their problems."Detroit is the first city to begin to implement his Powernomics philosophy, Anderson said. He wants to create a business district for blacks, like Mexicantown or Greektown, that would include a fish factory with its own hatchery, black hair-care supplier, popcorn factory and fruit juice producers.He said he has some investors lined up to help with such a project, but he would not reveal their names.
The executive director of the Initiative for a Competitive Inner City, a Boston-based nonprofit created by a Harvard University business professor, said the council is right to want to implement a plan to help blacks become entrepreneurs.
But the director, Anne Habiby, said black-business ownership is not a panacea, especially if there are no plans in place to help the business owners succeed. The initiative is in talks with Detroit to work as a consultant on economic development issues.
Habiby said Detroit has suffered so much population loss that its future success depends on more people moving into the city."Detroit must be an attractive place for people to live," Habiby said. "It's shortsighted for city leaders to create an environment that feels unwelcoming."Activists in the Hispanic and Arab communities say the city should work to help African Americans, but they said they worry that if the plan is seen as a race-based solution, it may deepen rifts between ethnic groups."I do think it's the city leadership's duty to work with the community and no doubt, the priority is African Americans," said Imad Hamad, Michigan director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. "We have to go by the makeup of the community. ... My concern here is that it depends how people read it or react to it."One Hispanic business leader said the city should open its doors to all ethnic groups.
She said the Mexican community has been part of the city since the early 1900s. Hispanics account for 5 percent of the city's population."There's a lot going on in the city of Detroit, and if there is a need for an African Town, go for it," said Maria Elena Rodriguez, president of the Mexicantown Community Development Corporation. "But we should not be knocked for trying to get a seat at the table."And John Carroll, who heads the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce, said like it or not, the city and the suburbs are tied together."We think it's not a good option to pursue," he said.
But seven of nine council members did. They voted in July to begin implementing parts of Anderson's plan, including a resolution that designates blacks, who make up 83 percent of Detroit's population, as the "majority minority" group and another that creates a development corporation that would operate as a loan fund exclusively for black entrepreneurs.
The mayor vetoed both resolutions, but the same council members overrode the veto.
Councilwoman Cockrel, who supported the mayor's veto, said: "I'm not prepared to support an economic development strategy that has the unintended consequences of pitting people against each other.
At the end of the day ... the plan ... advocates exclusionary classifications and illegal set-asides that only serve to divide and polarize within the city and the region.
And we have plenty of that already."
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African Town? 'Majority minority"?
Lets call thgis plan what it is--it's leagalized racism.
It may have been passed by the Coincil , however it will be struck down the second it gets to a court.
Can you imagine the bile of these Detroit Coincil members in passing such a vile racist bill as this?
In effect what they are calling for is Jim Crow for everyone else except blacks. If Detroit can pass its Africantown program--a program that exculdes all groups except blacks, when will it pass laws on where all excluded groups can live,whom they can marry,and what public facilities they can use?
The larger question is why has this not been front page news?
wHERE IS THE BREATHLESS Ted Kopple,and Peter Jennings et.al?
No mentionin the national news pages of the NY Times--no op-ed mention either?Are the major networks and the natioanl paper of record for racial economic gerrymanding--silly me of course they are.
What Detriot did in passing this "Powernomics" nonsense is stab at the heart of the Constitution--plain and simple---they just tore up the equal protection and civil rights sections of the Constitution--and the national press is as quite as the grave.
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SinkingShipRegistered UserPosts: 24(9/30/04 2:59)
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Re: Detroit--and reverse Jim Crow makes a return
Okay... let me get this straight? An asian family, right off the boat speaking NO english, can scrape together the money to open a business in a drug infested, high crime ghetto... where the entire family participates and works 16 hour days (with the kids actually going to school while learning english at the same time) while constantly suffering the abuse and violence of the local residents, all in pursuit of the American dream and making a better life for them and their children.... but this is wrong to do in a black neighborhood?
So why don't the local residents just do it then?
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CalRegistered UserPosts: 288(9/30/04 3:36)
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where the entire family participates and works 16 hour days
See thats it.
They work.
I dont mean to disparage everyone from a certain group, but there does seem to be a high percentage of "blame someone else" and "give me the guvment cheese" over working you a$$ off to better your life.
As for the taking jobs bit, I have a somewhat topical story from college:
Student: Its not fair, they come across the border and take our jobs.
Professor: Do you want to pick strawberries for $5/hr 9+ hours a day?
Student: No.
Professor: Do you know anyone who would?
Student: No.
Professor: Then whos jobs are they really taking?
If Detroit wants to see just how successful an "African" retail area is, why not look at Africa? I mean can you imagine "Blue light special on Isle 6, get a pygmy frier for only 159.99"
Its hard to hear the argument that certain people cant get ahead in society when they seem hell bent for leather to be their own society and not work with anyone else.
/rant
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VikingasRegistered UserPosts: 18(9/30/04 9:41)
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Jim Crow is alive and well in America
Jim Crow is alive and well.
Drug laws weren’t enforced until after integration and the aftermath of the Civil Rights movement.
Low law enforcement areas are going to be America’s downfall.
I am talking about the pits of despair too many inner city and downtown areas have become in America.
Just over 20 years ago I was in a known downtown Mafia breakfast hangout in Springfield, Massachusetts.
Mafia guy to cop in Alfredo’s: “I thought you were going to keep the Moolies on their side? They are block up from where they’re supposed to be. They’re selling drugs on the Italian side. Either you do something or we’re going to do something, and you’ll probably not like our method”
Cop in uniform: “Okay, I’ll take care of it.”
_______________
Minority drug dealers and users are later nailed as felons which limits them for life and keeps them down and out.
Crime watch areas are low law enforcement areas.
Armed Revenue collectors, Police, go after those that are bringing the neighborhoods up economically and can give residents a boost into the White Suburbs.
So property and investors and small business owners are the number one target of police, not criminals and drug dealers.
Jim Crow can't be secretly enforced unless those that aid and abet White Trash and Minorities are put down and taken out by being fined, fee'd, ruined, and having their property taken by a bank or under a nuisance statute where property can be taken if cops actually arrest criminals for criminal behavior downtown.
Take down landlords and small business owners downtown of any color and the invisible lines are still in place and long live, JIM CROW in the Peoples Republik of Hypocrania, USA.
If something was done in the initial stages there would not be so many minorities in prison.
Prison is birth control and containment for minorities.
The way drug laws are enforced minorities have a very small chance of ever living in the ‘White’ suburbs.
There you go, it’s Jim Crow.
_____________
Jim Crow is alive and well in modern America: FreeSpeech.com post
(warning: has graphic racist cartoon)
Drug dealer shoots pig in head with illegal gun chop pig up downtown: (post)
(warning: graphic photos of severed pig's head and feet)
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SinkingShipRegistered UserPosts: 25(9/30/04 14:04)
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Re: Jim Crow is alive and well in America
Sooooo anyway..... as we were saying... it's just too bad certain people would rather sit on a stoop all day drinking malt liquor and smoking weed while b!tch!ng about how they can't get a break while others are working so hard to make a difference and get to a better place in life.
Let them have their own neighborhoods.... hell, give them an entire state to run. It'll be another violent and depressed area in no time.
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VikingasRegistered UserPosts: 22(9/30/04 16:59)Reply Edit
Cops cause crime areas to be crime areas
It is attitudes like yours that keep, “Separate and Unequal” alive in this country.Women and minorities weren’t given or would have never gotten the vote had they not fought for it.When cops feel certain residents and neighborhoods don’t DESERVE protection and service you get a bad neighborhood.Almost no policing is needed in the suburbs so those residents may never know rude, sloppy service, being threatened by police for calling and complaining, and may never know how badly disciplined and wasteful certain members of “the live off our backs in taxes,” such as police officers can be.If you own a home or a small business in most downtown areas you need adequate police protection and service to prosper and in some cases to just survive.Police officers serve, protect, and investigate based on their biases and whims. Police answer to each other and couldn’t give a rat’s behind on what most taxpayers think.If we had the power behind the paycheck in overseeing police maybe we'd get the respect, protection and service we work AND ARE PAYING FOR. We possibly spend more than half of everyday working to PAY TAXES.We were taught communism, fascism, and living in a police state was bad and how good, etc. America was all the way up through schools.It looks like America has a corporate brand of Socialism, and after 9-11 we do live in a POLICE STATE as police have more power and less oversight than ever before, which is a dangerous combination.So whenever I see a crime area, vacant buildings, and misery, I know that it is a place the police feel they don’t have to do any work in, except as little as possible, allowing those that are perceived as 2nd class or not worthy, to be contained in misery.Label someone a felon and they are down and out and controlable for life. Their life is only a phone call away from being ruined forever, thrown back in a hole. __________Who am I talking about that has the power to allow someone to own a home, business, or even to date?Answer: Members of an almost exclusively White male club, think White Trash and minorities don’t deserve a way up and out, and don’t deserve any respect, quality of life, nor the services and protection of those, deemed by themselves, superior to all the lesser humans. Yes, there are minorities and women in the ranks, but home much influence do they really have if they get ‘mouthy’.That attitude is so pervasive in your blog, that a civilian reading it, or I would think most, after reading enough of it, realize that most of you guys have to be put on a much tighter leash.Talking about blanket parties (groups of officers beating an object of their infection) and having a get together “For Coffee” when directed towards a civilian, it means to be threatened with keeping quiet or suffering the consequences.I have said enough on this blog that if I told members of this blog an exact location and what time I’d be there in NYC, I could expect a large group of officers wanting to get a look at me … and well beyond …After writing about drugs being sold off my property, vandalism, and the lack of police doing anything about it as their most common excuse was, “We don’t serve landlords and neither do the courts,” and for proposing Civilian Oversight of Police to elected officials, I still didn’t get any protection and service from Connecticut State Police.But, when my name went over the radio any cop in a car within a half hour of my location would come. There were enough cops and cruisers to look like a riot was occurring in front of my 3 and 5 Church St., Stafford Springs, CT, 3 and 4 family houses. The dispatcher had to yell at the cops over the radio to go on their calls for accidents, domestic disputes, etc. They would stare me down and tell me to go back where I came from and to shut my mouth, “Or else.”I’m sure if it wasn’t a time of video cameras I would have been hung from a tree in my front yard and it would be ruled a ‘suicide’ I got the modern version of hanging as Trooper sloppily committed perjury after they had one of their informants stalk, threaten, harass, and jump me one night I came home late from work to arrest just me. For that I went to prison and was told to leave Connecticut or get more prison when I was released.I was one of the few productive people in a downtown area and I was harassed and more viciously targeted than rapists, thieves, vandals, drug dealers, prostitutes, or any other criminal other than a cop killer, for having a “Big Mouth”
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FreeSpeech.com (http://www.freespeech.com) posts relating to above subject:
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Jim Crow is alive and well in modern America. Graphic racist cartoon in below link.
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Detroit--and reverse Jim Crow makes a return
(Title of News Piece) Detroit council OKs plan that touts racial separation September 21, 2004
BY MARISOL BELLO
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER
A majority of the Detroit City Council wants to implement an economic development plan it commissioned for $112,000 that preaches racial isolation and rails against immigration in its bid to gain economic success for poor blacks.
The crux of the plan is the creation of a business district -- dubbed African Town -- that would be funded in part with city money and made up of black-owned businesses catering to a black clientele.The report also complains that immigrants from Mexico, Asia and the Middle East are stealing resources, jobs and other opportunities from blacks and calls on city leaders to stop the economic shift.
The report does not call on the city to stop immigration -- and the city wouldn't have any power to stop it, even if it wanted to -- but the report does call on the city to level the playing field between blacks and the newcomers who it says are economically surpassing them."We see this as another compliment to the exciting development going on in the city," said Councilwoman JoAnn Watson, who introduced the effort to the council earlier this summer.
The plan is under scrutiny by some city leaders and economic development experts who question the legality of an effort meant to help only one race. Some officials decry the council's efforts as threatening to reverse strides made in the region to improve race relations and the city's relationship with its neighbors.
Such a plan also could further alienate efforts by Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick to seek regional cooperation and funding for major projects, such as an expansion and renovation of Cobo Center.
One official calls it outright racist."It's reverse racism," said Kay Everett, one of two councilwomen who voted against the plan. The other council member who rejected the plan was Sheila Cockrel."This is foolish," Everett said. "They don't understand. They're not thinking of the city as a whole. We need to bring harmony to this city, and if we say that we do not want any other people here, then we're being racist."Council members who voted for the plan are quick to say they are not against immigrants.
They say the city must act to help blacks, who more than any other ethnic group in the United States suffer from high levels of poverty, unemployment and school dropout rates.
Kilpatrick vetoed efforts by the council in July to implement the plan, but last week the mayor met with the plan's creator, Claud Anderson, a former Detroiter who had unsuccessfully applied for a casino license. He is also the author of popular books about the economic state of blacks in the country.
Kilpatrick officials said they did not sign any agreements with Anderson, but they are working to help him find land for a business district. So far, they have been unsuccessful.
A mayoral spokesman said that while the meetings were not an endorsement of the politics behind Anderson's plans, the mayor sees merit in the portions of the plan that are focused on creating jobs and increasing the number of black-owned businesses in the city."As they do with any potential investors, the mayor and his development team will continue to evaluate any economic development proposal presented to the city as part of its ongoing efforts to grow Detroit," said mayoral spokesman Howard Hughey."This administration is committed to improving the social and economic conditions, not only of African Americans, but also other traditionally disadvantaged groups."He said the administration is against the council's efforts to institutionalize a system that only helps blacks to the exclusion of other races. The council will find it difficult to implement its plan without the mayor's approval.The report, "A Powernomics Economic Development Plan for Detroit's Under-Served Majority Population," says inner cities should be improved for its residents, who should own and control the businesses in their neighborhoods.
He calls on blacks to support black-owned businesses, in the same way he says other groups frequent stores owned by people of their own ethnicities.
The report also says integration has failed blacks and that regionalism is a bid by whites to control the city's resources. Anderson warns city leaders to beware of non-blacks moving into the city because they will have their own agendas.
Anderson says his theories are not racist, but they are honest.He said the city is bordering on an economic crisis, with 26 percent of the city's population living below the poverty line."The biggest problem in the city of Detroit -- and it's true of all urban areas -- are black leaders and white leaders who continue to use and hide behind the myth of a color-blind and race-neutral society and use it as an excuse not to deal with this dilemma," Anderson said."There are special problems unique to black folks, and the city needs to address their problems."Detroit is the first city to begin to implement his Powernomics philosophy, Anderson said. He wants to create a business district for blacks, like Mexicantown or Greektown, that would include a fish factory with its own hatchery, black hair-care supplier, popcorn factory and fruit juice producers.He said he has some investors lined up to help with such a project, but he would not reveal their names.
The executive director of the Initiative for a Competitive Inner City, a Boston-based nonprofit created by a Harvard University business professor, said the council is right to want to implement a plan to help blacks become entrepreneurs.
But the director, Anne Habiby, said black-business ownership is not a panacea, especially if there are no plans in place to help the business owners succeed. The initiative is in talks with Detroit to work as a consultant on economic development issues.
Habiby said Detroit has suffered so much population loss that its future success depends on more people moving into the city."Detroit must be an attractive place for people to live," Habiby said. "It's shortsighted for city leaders to create an environment that feels unwelcoming."Activists in the Hispanic and Arab communities say the city should work to help African Americans, but they said they worry that if the plan is seen as a race-based solution, it may deepen rifts between ethnic groups."I do think it's the city leadership's duty to work with the community and no doubt, the priority is African Americans," said Imad Hamad, Michigan director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. "We have to go by the makeup of the community. ... My concern here is that it depends how people read it or react to it."One Hispanic business leader said the city should open its doors to all ethnic groups.
She said the Mexican community has been part of the city since the early 1900s. Hispanics account for 5 percent of the city's population."There's a lot going on in the city of Detroit, and if there is a need for an African Town, go for it," said Maria Elena Rodriguez, president of the Mexicantown Community Development Corporation. "But we should not be knocked for trying to get a seat at the table."And John Carroll, who heads the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce, said like it or not, the city and the suburbs are tied together."We think it's not a good option to pursue," he said.
But seven of nine council members did. They voted in July to begin implementing parts of Anderson's plan, including a resolution that designates blacks, who make up 83 percent of Detroit's population, as the "majority minority" group and another that creates a development corporation that would operate as a loan fund exclusively for black entrepreneurs.
The mayor vetoed both resolutions, but the same council members overrode the veto.
Councilwoman Cockrel, who supported the mayor's veto, said: "I'm not prepared to support an economic development strategy that has the unintended consequences of pitting people against each other.
At the end of the day ... the plan ... advocates exclusionary classifications and illegal set-asides that only serve to divide and polarize within the city and the region.
And we have plenty of that already."
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African Town? 'Majority minority"?
Lets call thgis plan what it is--it's leagalized racism.
It may have been passed by the Coincil , however it will be struck down the second it gets to a court.
Can you imagine the bile of these Detroit Coincil members in passing such a vile racist bill as this?
In effect what they are calling for is Jim Crow for everyone else except blacks. If Detroit can pass its Africantown program--a program that exculdes all groups except blacks, when will it pass laws on where all excluded groups can live,whom they can marry,and what public facilities they can use?
The larger question is why has this not been front page news?
wHERE IS THE BREATHLESS Ted Kopple,and Peter Jennings et.al?
No mentionin the national news pages of the NY Times--no op-ed mention either?Are the major networks and the natioanl paper of record for racial economic gerrymanding--silly me of course they are.
What Detriot did in passing this "Powernomics" nonsense is stab at the heart of the Constitution--plain and simple---they just tore up the equal protection and civil rights sections of the Constitution--and the national press is as quite as the grave.
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SinkingShipRegistered UserPosts: 24(9/30/04 2:59)
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Re: Detroit--and reverse Jim Crow makes a return
Okay... let me get this straight? An asian family, right off the boat speaking NO english, can scrape together the money to open a business in a drug infested, high crime ghetto... where the entire family participates and works 16 hour days (with the kids actually going to school while learning english at the same time) while constantly suffering the abuse and violence of the local residents, all in pursuit of the American dream and making a better life for them and their children.... but this is wrong to do in a black neighborhood?
So why don't the local residents just do it then?
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CalRegistered UserPosts: 288(9/30/04 3:36)
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where the entire family participates and works 16 hour days
See thats it.
They work.
I dont mean to disparage everyone from a certain group, but there does seem to be a high percentage of "blame someone else" and "give me the guvment cheese" over working you a$$ off to better your life.
As for the taking jobs bit, I have a somewhat topical story from college:
Student: Its not fair, they come across the border and take our jobs.
Professor: Do you want to pick strawberries for $5/hr 9+ hours a day?
Student: No.
Professor: Do you know anyone who would?
Student: No.
Professor: Then whos jobs are they really taking?
If Detroit wants to see just how successful an "African" retail area is, why not look at Africa? I mean can you imagine "Blue light special on Isle 6, get a pygmy frier for only 159.99"
Its hard to hear the argument that certain people cant get ahead in society when they seem hell bent for leather to be their own society and not work with anyone else.
/rant
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VikingasRegistered UserPosts: 18(9/30/04 9:41)
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Jim Crow is alive and well in America
Jim Crow is alive and well.
Drug laws weren’t enforced until after integration and the aftermath of the Civil Rights movement.
Low law enforcement areas are going to be America’s downfall.
I am talking about the pits of despair too many inner city and downtown areas have become in America.
Just over 20 years ago I was in a known downtown Mafia breakfast hangout in Springfield, Massachusetts.
Mafia guy to cop in Alfredo’s: “I thought you were going to keep the Moolies on their side? They are block up from where they’re supposed to be. They’re selling drugs on the Italian side. Either you do something or we’re going to do something, and you’ll probably not like our method”
Cop in uniform: “Okay, I’ll take care of it.”
_______________
Minority drug dealers and users are later nailed as felons which limits them for life and keeps them down and out.
Crime watch areas are low law enforcement areas.
Armed Revenue collectors, Police, go after those that are bringing the neighborhoods up economically and can give residents a boost into the White Suburbs.
So property and investors and small business owners are the number one target of police, not criminals and drug dealers.
Jim Crow can't be secretly enforced unless those that aid and abet White Trash and Minorities are put down and taken out by being fined, fee'd, ruined, and having their property taken by a bank or under a nuisance statute where property can be taken if cops actually arrest criminals for criminal behavior downtown.
Take down landlords and small business owners downtown of any color and the invisible lines are still in place and long live, JIM CROW in the Peoples Republik of Hypocrania, USA.
If something was done in the initial stages there would not be so many minorities in prison.
Prison is birth control and containment for minorities.
The way drug laws are enforced minorities have a very small chance of ever living in the ‘White’ suburbs.
There you go, it’s Jim Crow.
_____________
Jim Crow is alive and well in modern America: FreeSpeech.com post
(warning: has graphic racist cartoon)
Drug dealer shoots pig in head with illegal gun chop pig up downtown: (post)
(warning: graphic photos of severed pig's head and feet)
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SinkingShipRegistered UserPosts: 25(9/30/04 14:04)
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Re: Jim Crow is alive and well in America
Sooooo anyway..... as we were saying... it's just too bad certain people would rather sit on a stoop all day drinking malt liquor and smoking weed while b!tch!ng about how they can't get a break while others are working so hard to make a difference and get to a better place in life.
Let them have their own neighborhoods.... hell, give them an entire state to run. It'll be another violent and depressed area in no time.
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VikingasRegistered UserPosts: 22(9/30/04 16:59)Reply Edit
Cops cause crime areas to be crime areas
It is attitudes like yours that keep, “Separate and Unequal” alive in this country.Women and minorities weren’t given or would have never gotten the vote had they not fought for it.When cops feel certain residents and neighborhoods don’t DESERVE protection and service you get a bad neighborhood.Almost no policing is needed in the suburbs so those residents may never know rude, sloppy service, being threatened by police for calling and complaining, and may never know how badly disciplined and wasteful certain members of “the live off our backs in taxes,” such as police officers can be.If you own a home or a small business in most downtown areas you need adequate police protection and service to prosper and in some cases to just survive.Police officers serve, protect, and investigate based on their biases and whims. Police answer to each other and couldn’t give a rat’s behind on what most taxpayers think.If we had the power behind the paycheck in overseeing police maybe we'd get the respect, protection and service we work AND ARE PAYING FOR. We possibly spend more than half of everyday working to PAY TAXES.We were taught communism, fascism, and living in a police state was bad and how good, etc. America was all the way up through schools.It looks like America has a corporate brand of Socialism, and after 9-11 we do live in a POLICE STATE as police have more power and less oversight than ever before, which is a dangerous combination.So whenever I see a crime area, vacant buildings, and misery, I know that it is a place the police feel they don’t have to do any work in, except as little as possible, allowing those that are perceived as 2nd class or not worthy, to be contained in misery.Label someone a felon and they are down and out and controlable for life. Their life is only a phone call away from being ruined forever, thrown back in a hole. __________Who am I talking about that has the power to allow someone to own a home, business, or even to date?Answer: Members of an almost exclusively White male club, think White Trash and minorities don’t deserve a way up and out, and don’t deserve any respect, quality of life, nor the services and protection of those, deemed by themselves, superior to all the lesser humans. Yes, there are minorities and women in the ranks, but home much influence do they really have if they get ‘mouthy’.That attitude is so pervasive in your blog, that a civilian reading it, or I would think most, after reading enough of it, realize that most of you guys have to be put on a much tighter leash.Talking about blanket parties (groups of officers beating an object of their infection) and having a get together “For Coffee” when directed towards a civilian, it means to be threatened with keeping quiet or suffering the consequences.I have said enough on this blog that if I told members of this blog an exact location and what time I’d be there in NYC, I could expect a large group of officers wanting to get a look at me … and well beyond …After writing about drugs being sold off my property, vandalism, and the lack of police doing anything about it as their most common excuse was, “We don’t serve landlords and neither do the courts,” and for proposing Civilian Oversight of Police to elected officials, I still didn’t get any protection and service from Connecticut State Police.But, when my name went over the radio any cop in a car within a half hour of my location would come. There were enough cops and cruisers to look like a riot was occurring in front of my 3 and 5 Church St., Stafford Springs, CT, 3 and 4 family houses. The dispatcher had to yell at the cops over the radio to go on their calls for accidents, domestic disputes, etc. They would stare me down and tell me to go back where I came from and to shut my mouth, “Or else.”I’m sure if it wasn’t a time of video cameras I would have been hung from a tree in my front yard and it would be ruled a ‘suicide’ I got the modern version of hanging as Trooper sloppily committed perjury after they had one of their informants stalk, threaten, harass, and jump me one night I came home late from work to arrest just me. For that I went to prison and was told to leave Connecticut or get more prison when I was released.I was one of the few productive people in a downtown area and I was harassed and more viciously targeted than rapists, thieves, vandals, drug dealers, prostitutes, or any other criminal other than a cop killer, for having a “Big Mouth”
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The Stark Raving Viking
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FreeSpeech.com (http://www.freespeech.com) posts relating to above subject:
"Instant Misery, Just Add Connecticut"
http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001654.html
"Downtown America, why are so many, criminal breeding grounds and pits of despair?"
Jim Crow is alive and well in modern America. Graphic racist cartoon in below link.
http://www.freespeech.com/archives/001883.html
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posted by The Stark Raving Viking at 8:41 AM
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